To find out more, including how to control cookies, see here: And the trick is to make the audience forget that there hasn’t been any singing for over half an hour. Since the musical tells the story of the Second Continental Congress and the struggle to declare independence from Great Britain, and since the delegates at the Congress conducted their debates from tables representing their state delegations, the audience and the performers will all be seated together at long tables. He goes to a very “dark side,” and that was tough going there as an actor. In reality, the Congress voted for independence on July 2 nd , and then debated the wording of the Declaration for two days before passing it. When he became a printer, one of the first texts he published, in , was his Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion In Two Parts , in which he lays out his religious beliefs.

Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts. He was also a history teacher. As creator of the world. The biggest misrepresentation in the film is its treatment of John Dickinson of Pennsylvania. As a young man, Franklin read a series of lectures that intended to refute Deism, but found himself far more convinced by the Deist position as it was laid out in the text, and so became a Deist. Fan, we see something quite similar everyday in current political discourse.

Ethan Allen was once prosecuted for blasphemy for his advocacy for Deism.

Adams” is actually over 30 min. But shouldn’t it be due to strong, logical dramatic progression that Rutledge wins his point? For his troubles, his constituents ousted him from office the next year. And it’s an exciting scene with so much going on in it. But Adams comments that he will be forgotten and Franklin and Washington will get all the credit. First, the Continental Congress was held in secrecy and kept no records of its debates.

Molasses to Rum – from the musical — Critical Commons

This site uses cookies. Rutledge wants slavery to continue, so why is he describing it in a way that somewhat acknowledges how awful it is? He was also a history teacher. Is he just trying to cause a commotion to bring the independence debate to a halt?

Most of the debate takes place behind closed door during the insufferable Philadelphia summer heat. For Adams, the study of nature was an important tool for understanding God and His will. So Deists adopted a wide range of attitudes toward religious issues. So it might not be too late to see if you can snag a spot.


Molasses to Rum (1776): why?

I invite other examples, or comments about the examples above. I’ve read the libretto, heard the cast recording and seen the movie, however the musical basically taught me everything I ‘know’ about this part of US history, so I’m relying on the show alone for this, not on historical knowledge.

I played Rutledge a thousand years ago. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts. But the southern colonies refuse to accept this because slavery is so important to them economically.

I think you’re a little hung up on your own calculation as to political effectiveness. A third issue is that in order to make the story sufficiently dramatic, Stone found it necessary to play fast and loose with the biographies and political views of many of the characters.

The film rather consciously employs a teleological view of history. Fan, henrik is right as usual. So pointing it out is like saying there is music in a mvoie. Thus, even though the voices on the revival CD what little I’ve heard of it are “better,” they’re less interesting to listen to. It’s almost a play within a musical. Again, this is somewhat startling for modern Americans, who are used to a political system in which the Congressional majority and president determine what happens for the whole country.

In other words, Franklin is declaring himself a polytheist here. Holy mackerel was he good. Say, for example, that murder was not outlawed and I was proposing to outlaw it, arguing that murder is wrong. But when the critical vote comes, Wilson rather bizarrely says he prefers to be forgotten and knows that if he votes with Dickinson, he will be remembered forever as the man who prevented American independence. Yes, it’s a weird idea for a musical.

You can’t cover a subject in 2 hours without doing that. A It’s a grand distraction from a real discussion about what’s just and moral when what’s just and moral is seen as being inconvenient and or can only be accomplished at great sacrifice. But doing so obscures the reality that a large number of the founding fathers, including Adams, Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson, were adherents of mvoie 18 th century religious movement known as Deism, which most modern Christians would probably say was not Christianity at all.

He’s cutting Adams’ entire argument out from under him by highlighting in the most explicit possible terms how deep the hypocrisy of the North is. Every time I read about gridlock in government, I think of the song “Piddle, Twiddle, and Resolve” but not one damn thing do we solve.


Unlike most forms of 18 th century Christianity, Deism possessed no formal clergy or hierarchy, no doctrines that followers were required to adhere to, and no initiation rituals. Just as Fiddler on the Roof touches the Jewish part of my soul, touches the American part.

When he movif a printer, one of the first texts he published, inwas his Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion In Two Partsin which he lays out his religious beliefs. Rutledge the character is just not the best political strategist, or at least not at this moment in the show.

Although Alexander Hamilton was a member of the Federalists, Hamilton repeatedly attacked Adams as a fool. So when Adams described how reviled he was inhe was projecting his experiences in presidential politics back moovie quarter-century. This means that the British are about to cut the ti in half. That shows you how strong the book is.

Whereas Americans tend to picture the 13 colonies as being united as one in opposition to the British monarchy, the reality is much more complex. In other words, the colonies did not want to surrender their sovereignty to another state because they recognized that these states did not all have the same attitudes, concerns, or economic interests. So for example, early in the film, John Adams William Daniels joking compares the Continental Congress to the Biblical plagues of Egypt and has a sort of conversation with God in which he reveals how frustrated he is at the inability to make progress on key issue of independence.

Opposing forces include the representatives of the slave-owning states, led by Edward Rutledge SCwho refuse to even consider signing the Declaration if it explicitly frees the slaves; and the wealthy conservatives, led by John Dickinson PAwho do not want to put their fortunes in jeopardy by defying the motherland.

Second, it collapses the debate over independence into the debate moalsses the Declaration of Independence as a document, so that accepting the Declaration is a vote for rebel. Would any posters mind helping me to better understand this song? But this belief is dark and dubious. Dickinson was one of the wealthiest men in the colonies, but he was also a staunch proponent of independence.